“Wait, So is this a night out together?” Podcast Episode 209: Bottoming with Chingy | Autostraddle

Why don’t we make some noise for soles in the house! (It’s me personally, the base in your house.) Bottom customs is becoming quite anything™ Online as of late! Exactly what will it truly indicate becoming a bottom? The reason why provides the culture determined bottoming is just getting scared to inquire about for just what need? And just how does an individual begin deciding when they fancy bottoming?!

Along with these questions rattling around our very own brains, demanding solutions, Drew and I also knew there was clearly singular individual we’re able to go to for a rounded, enthusiastic talk about bottoming: The Gay Chingy AKA Chingy Nea, AKA the base Supreme. Chingy is among the finest folks i understand composing and tweeting now, so that as a bottom me, Im recognized to contact the woman my frontrunner. Chingy helps us tease completely what it means to be a bottom, why she detests “smol bean” bottom tradition, yourself as gap, plus human anatomy as

whole

. It’s a very stunning talk, easily would say so myself! Kindly know that i realize that we say “gorgeous” approximately three thousand occasions this episode, I am also pursuing help for my personal condition. (the situation is actually talking like 57 year old white gay guy.)

And! This week’s online game involves me speculating if the challenging plots Drew defines participate in a film or a dream she had circa 2006. It is not easy!


PROGRAM RECORDS

+ Study Chingy’s
Bottom Manifesto
, follow the woman
on Twitter
and
IG
!

+is a list of all the flicks that received utilized in the woman online game:


  • The Seventh Seal

    (1937)

  • Discussing Child

    (1938)


  • Pierrot ce Fou


    (1965)

  • Ebony Swan

    (2010)

+Watch Anna Faris perform the greatest work of the woman profession in

Smiley Face!


+Let

Shohreh Aghdashloo chat one sleep while clothed as Chrisjen


Avasarala


from

The Expanse

because you are entitled to that.


+Cindy Wilson of this B52s is fairly hot and frankly? “Love Shack” however whips!


+
Robert Mitchum
, stone cold fox.



EPISODE


Chingy

: I’ve merely been bottoming since I was, I am not sure, dating back I am able to bear in mind.


Drew

: Cue Rags to wealth from

Goodfellas.


Chingy

: dating back to I am able to bear in mind, i usually planned to end up being a bottom, no, but type of

[intro plays]


Drew

: Hi, I Am Drew.


Christina

: I Am Christina.


Drew

: Thanks for visiting

Wait, So Is This a night out together

?


Christina

:

Hold off, Is This a night out together?

is actually an Autostraddle podcast aimed at the only, the only the largest question of one’s instances: Wait, Is This a night out together?


Drew

: And, wow, i must say i only froze upwards indeed there.


Christina

: I was like, oh crap, I found myself designed to say something! [laughs]


Drew

: I’m truly rapid on the banter, my personal head simply… The truth is that I became reading over my personal game notes, which we aren’t at but because we still have to introduce our selves. Thus, I’m going to attempt to stay dedicated to one task at the same time.


Christina

: Focus up!


Drew

: i’m Drew Gregory, i will be a writer for Autostraddle, and a filmmaker, and a trans woman.


Christina

: Hi, I am Christina Tucker, forgot my personal final title for a hot moment, no big issue. I’m additionally an author at Autostraddle and various other spots on the web, a podcaster, a gay black colored girl. That’s types of it, puppy, which is myself.


Drew

: I favor it. Okay, now we-


Christina

: Now the video game.


Drew

: are we able to have fun with the game?


Christina

: Can we get to the online game? I’m able to show’re excited, I am able to reveal’re just vibrating.


Drew

: therefore, i am maintaining a dream record since 2007, as well as the idea for this game is actually-


Christina

: I did not understand this in regards to you!


Drew

: Yes, it isn’t really as updated today, I always jot down all my personal aspirations and then it is only once some thing really sticks. But, the premise of this video game is, am I describing the plot of an aspiration I got while I was actually a teenager, or are we describing the storyline of a motion picture that I adored whenever I had been an adolescent?


Christina

: Oh kid, okay.


Drew

: Thus, the way it will probably go is I’ll usually explain it as an aspiration as well as in the very first individual. So, if this ended up being

Celebrity Wars,

I would end up like, i am in area and that I’m fighting as part of a rebellion, and there’s a bad  man that is sporting a black robot fit and it also turns out he is my father. Which is the way I’ll explain it, the way we explain dreams, but sometimes it is going to be an aspiration, often it’ll be from a movie. Ready?


Christina

: I’m anything, I don’t know that i am prepared, but let us stone. Let us see what I’m able to do right here.


Drew

: Okay, i am on a beach and that I see this weird guy wearing black. The guy tells me which he’s dying and we also can take advantage of a casino game to choose if I reside or if perhaps the guy takes myself. I have the ability to avoid, but every where I go, folks are ill and that I feel like Death continues to be after me.The merely happy part is when We fulfill a theater troupe and they’re lots of fun.


Christina

: This,In my opinion, is an aspiration.


Drew

: this will be Ingmar Bergman’s

The Seventh Seal

from 1957.


Christina

: this really is gonna be an actual gotcha on CT’s traditional movie expertise, because the things I know that Drew, within puberty, had not been carrying out was actually viewing motion pictures that I’m going to accept. At this point, I’m type hoping that I have seen do not require. In my opinion that’ll be more pleasurable in my situation.


Drew

: the 2nd one, i am meeting with my children many Italian American gangsters. Among gangsters demands that we provide over some cash, but my family and I also was able to break free. We escape through all this work cold terrain, on the highway I meet an actress and get in touch with the girl. We land in a suburb. I think we will start a unique life with each other until she requires us to a huge residence, and I recognize it belongs to the gangster. It absolutely was all a trap, the gangster shows up so there’s a confrontation. I eliminate him, the dream ends up together with the actress doing a musical wide variety.


Christina

: Is it a film?


Drew

: This would be an aspiration I got in 2008.


Christina

: Okay, wow. Boy, yeah, I guess i need to remember that it is 2000, it is old-school received brain. That is what i must recall.


Drew

: additionally love, exactly what films was we seeing at the time and exactly how a lot performed that influence my personal fantasies?


Christina

: Well, yeah, clearly quite a bit!


Drew

: a great fact is that I happened to be actually, i did not integrate this simply because I was thinking this might provide away, however the gangster ended up being Tony Soprano because I found myself enjoying

The Sopranos

in 2008. Very, which is a great little fact. Okay, next one, We have a significant task, but this hot woman shows up and begins sidetracking myself. I would like to be together, but I additionally really need to get could work accomplished, thus I tell the girl to leave. She helps to keep after me. Suddenly, a leopard looks in my area and I also must spend remaining dream attempting to get the leopard. I am nevertheless truly nervous, We never finish might work, but at the very least the girl is actually hot.


Christina

: it has becoming an aspiration of yours, it has to be a Drew fantasy.


Drew

: This Is Exactly Howard Hawks’

Bringing Up Kid

from 1938.


Christina

: No, but that is an aspiration of yours, this is the a lot of Drew dream I ever heard. Now at this point, i am simply going to be spinning film background, to suit my personal whims.


Drew

: Great, I like that. Okay, I’m at a party and I do not love anybody there. Ultimately, we see this girl, we once had a crush on and now we opt to leave together. We go to her household, but are chased off from this gang of guys who happen to be attempting to eliminate the lady. We end up on a beach and it seems like we will be fine up until the men discover united states. She ends up being into this additional guy, and so I simply take cartoonish dynamite and determine to blow my self up


Christina

: Movie.


Drew

: that is! This might be Jean Luc Goddard’s

Pierrot le Fou

, from 1965.


Christina

: Have not viewed, but that appears like a ding dang motion picture in my experience.


Drew

: Great, i really like it. Absolutely a narration explaining an odd boat like structure which is impractical to ruin. I want on a retreat near the design, the escape is kind of theater connected, kind of spiritual. We have a crush on this girl at escape, but she has a boyfriend. Amid the shows and rituals, there’s a lot of crisis between me personally and this woman and her boyfriend, it comes to an end with me alone. There is a sequence revealing that the vessel design is impractical to wreck because a mechanical arm fixes it from inside the night.


Christina

: that would be any such thing in numerous techniques, I’m going to state film once again, why-not?


Drew

: It is an aspiration from 2011, that performed have narration from some other person, you are aware, it happens!


Christina

: this is actually good promo to possess an aspiration diary, because i’m like it was fun if I could remember my personal fantasies in this manner.


Drew

: no body likes when you explain the aspirations in their mind. I do though, and I’m your own friend, if you need to jot down your own hopes and dreams and tell me, I would love to read about all of them.


Christina

: Okay, that is very nice to listen to.


Drew

: I have two a lot more.


Christina

: Okay.


Drew

: I’m in a lovely garden with a small grouping of buddies, we all seem to be getting up from getting drugged. We are forced to shower in an acid that drains pigment and we also turn out to be gothic and blue-eyed. The individuals in charge start training united states to kill, it turns out this one has been operate by a crazy dictator, we reject getting entirely brainwashed. Absolutely this woman indeed there We have a crush on and I convince the girl to flee beside me, while leaking out I get recorded and slain, nevertheless lady will get away. When she leaves the jail, she finds out we’re in the exact middle of a forest so there’s no place to go.


Christina

: Film.


Drew

: that could be one dream in my own fantasy diary from, we mentioned, “2007.” That it is 2006.


Christina

: Wow.


Drew

: I always thought it absolutely was interesting that I die inside the dream, however the other individual goes on on. But now, there’s some odd gender stuff taking place truth be told there, and that I’m attending need certainly to think about that one for some time.


Christina

: certainly accomplish that.


Drew

: Okay, I have another.


Christina

: Okay.


Drew

: i have been given the possiblity to be a ballerina, my mommy claims I won’t manage to exercise. There is this various other girl within the tv show whom In my opinion is hot, but I’m troubled she is going to change me. I’m struggling in rehearsal, but end right up making making use of the woman, we hook up. It’s really hot, but personally i think myself dropping control, we go back to the party tv series. My human body seems to be morphing into something else entirely, I’m stressed that i will ruin.


Christina

: this can be a motion picture.


Drew

: Therefore,

Ebony Swan

.


Christina

: Yes, this is certainly

Dark Swan

, truly.


Drew

: maybe you have viewed

Dark Swan

? That was one I was thinking you have seen.


Christina

: I have come across

Ebony Swan

, I… Fun fact, I went on a date with a person observe

Ebony Swan

.


Drew

: Wow.


Christina

: simply directly circumstances i did so.


Drew

: that which was that like?


Christina

: Weird, it had been unusual.


Drew

: Did you just like the movie? Did he like motion picture?


Christina

: i believe, I experienced currently observed it, i believe I happened to be love, “Let’s get view it again.” I think, I was really pro

Black Swan,

and straight heterosexual explanations, truly.


Drew

: Sure, okay.


Christina

: And, he was like, “That was odd.” And I also had been like, “Oh well, we aren’t attending continue to date.”


Drew

: Wow, really I wish him the best, i am hoping he’s someplace doing well. Thanks a lot for playing the game beside me.


Christina

: Wow, i am therefore grateful I moved two for however lots of we performed on that.


Drew

: perhaps not terrible.


Christina

: maybe not bad.


Drew

: You Probably Did much better than Elise did while I planned to see if this was a practical video game might work, and she was actually my guinea-pig. Very, she merely got one correct.


Christina

: Fair adequate.


Drew

: Should we proceed to our very own major subject in the few days?


Christina

: Let’s enter into it, why don’t we get this unique guest in.


Drew

: Well, i wish to very first point out that our very own primary topic associated with the few days is actually bottoming, therefore we could have only one really special visitor.


Christina

: It’s just one individual.


Drew

: Can you kindly present yourself?


Chingy

: Hi, I’m Chingy Nea, otherwise known as The Gay Chingy. I’m a Writer, Filmmaker, and gasian leather dyke muppet. Im in addition America’s top base.


Christina

: Yes, I think as soon as we had been talking about subject areas and now we’re like, “we can easily discuss bottoming and there’s virtually only one person we can easily have throughout the pod to achieve this, there’s only 1 person who is fairly practically the Supreme.”


Chingy

: many thanks for recognizing, it feels very good getting your own success respected, thank you so much


Christina

: Yes, and also you’ve accomplished great work, and right here we are recognizing it.


Drew

: i wish to understand as soon as you feel like you became The united states’s greatest base. When was actually that a word and a label and an identity you really conducted onto?


Chingy

: Well, thus I typically merely state, “i am The Bottom Supreme.” Because, who cares about The usa?


Drew

: Yes.


Christina

: reasonable sufficient.


Chingy

: Yeah, i do believe that i was proficient at bottoming, however in 2017 or something like that, we decided to go to a play party that was just for fem leading sadists defeating me personally up for six to seven hours right, also it was only myself, and I also was actually like, “Oh, i am top that’s actually ever been.” Right after which, I think after that, i simply held increasing being, wow, I’m very fun to view. Wow, i am therefore enjoyable as a bottom, this is exactly wow, everyone who reaches peak me personally is so happy. And, it went following that, i believe, immediately after which we wrote articles known as i am a far greater Bottom versus You. Here’s Exactly Why. It actually was sorts of a manifesto, it had been a bottom manifesto.


Christina

: Yes, can confirm.


Chingy

: And, lots of people have actually said, “its altered the way they check gender.” And, i prefer that many. This is the one article to my website that i have created here. I have created at

Vice

,

Teen Vogue

,

Vulture

—

Autostraddle

ended up being the first place I blogged, in fact. But yeah, this is the one web log to my internet site, when you need to try it out.


Christina

: I like a stronger brand name, I love once you understand a brandname, and I also believe that’s really gorgeous, only, brand management of your very own bottomy your self. I think, that’s actually breathtaking observe.


Chingy

: thanks, I managed to get my personal very first writing chance at

Autostraddle

because I happened to be writing about becoming a bottom, and being poly, and being truly strong into becoming a leather dyke. And because after that, I started initially to talk about a bunch of other stuff, but getting bottom part supreme only type will be the one through distinctive line of it-all.


Christina

: Yes.


Drew

: In addition feel just like you’re a rather effective bottom in addition to in how that you reveal, and talk about, and that I think knowledge bottoming that you’re really energetic. While, i do believe there’s a lot of the queer area, possibly, especially the lesbian neighborhood, that maybe thinks of bottoming as… I’m not sure-


Chingy:

Passivity

.


Christina

: Mm-hmm

(Affirmative)

.


Drew

: Yeah.


Chingy

: Yeah, we usually declare that absolutely much less bottoms than folks think are bottoms. I think there’s a significant difference between getting a bottom and simply unsure or requesting what you need. I think those are two completely different things that folks conflate.


Christina

: i might need certainly to agree, In addition believe the way you mention bottoming is, I mean, let us simply say it, so much significantly less inconvenient as compared to way a lot of people mention getting a bottom or determine with bottom part culture. Because, i actually do feel that what lots of people are saying explicitly or non clearly is just, i’m idle and never care accomplish any sort of activity, task, et-cetera, i’d like circumstances completed to myself. And, if I have to look for that out in in any manner, that affects my personal emotions. And, you are great and therefore effective at getting, they are the things that Needs, bring them to myself and that I will rock the globe. Definitely attractive in my opinion.


Chingy

: thank-you, after all, that is what you should do is great at just one thing, you need to place yourself nowadays and try to make errors and acquire damage a bit, and, I don’t know, study on it.


Christina

: In my opinion that is a good information, frankly.


Chingy

: I just already been bottoming since I have ended up being, I am not sure, dating back i could recall. [laughs]


Drew

: Cue “Rags to wealth” from

Goodfellas

.


Chingy

: Yeah, as far back as I am able to recall, i usually planned to end up being a bottom. No, but type, as I was 13 or 14, I happened to be currently checking out BDSM internet sites and lesbian BDSM sites. Thus, I happened to ben’t under any delusions by what I happened to be pertaining to, I became having ladies I dated in highschool choke me out, we knew what I wanted. Therefore, that level of understanding recently provided me a number of years to know what i would like and learn how to obtain it.


Christina

: Beautiful, Drew, offer me your emotions on bottoming.


Drew

: Well, i am actually truly thrilled to share with you this simply because i’m like in 2019 {when I|as I|while
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